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15/06/2009, 10:46 AM King Ludd Joined on 20/12/2008 Posts 35 Exmouth - Lympstone Cycle Path .    Report

03/07/2009, 2:30 PM tiredpaws Joined on 26/04/2009 Posts 18 Re: Exmouth - Lympstone Cycle Path I have to disagree it is not a sole cycle path it is a shared path for every one to enjoy regardless of their transport method. Yes dogs should be on leads but then some people seem to need a rocket up their bum simply to remeber to pick up after their dogs so that is just one of lifes little frustrations! Slow down a bit, enjoy the views and be as courteous to the pedestrians as you would like them to be to you and maybe you can enjoy the path as well.    Report

09/07/2009, 8:36 AM inquiringmind Joined on 29/05/2009 Posts 23 Re: Exmouth - Lympstone Cycle Path I have walked the path - and moaned about inconsiderate cyclists; I have cycled the path - and moaned about inconsiderate walkers.  The path is a great asset and it is fantastic that DCC chose to spend some (of our hard-earned) cash on building it.  I look forward to the day that it is open all the way to Exeter.  I'm afraid that it is down to the users to respect each other and share the path for the benefit of all - although respect and courtesy to others seems to be lacking in all walks of life these days.    Report

17/11/2009, 8:54 PM tiredpaws Joined on 26/04/2009 Posts 18 Re: Exmouth - Lympstone Cycle Path Now that it is dark early, just a further thought on the path Could walkers consider carrying torch or light and simply a flashing light on their dog to highlight themselves? Could cyclists please use a bell or their voice when coming up behind a walker as in the dark it is even more of a shock when one goes past without warning! Cheers    Report

27/01/2010, 11:55 AM sweeney Joined on 27/01/2010 Posts 4 Re: Exmouth - Lympstone Cycle Path I largely agree. We are fortunate enough to have ready access to areas of natural beauty that many will never have the fortune to enjoy. If we cannot get on with one another then we don't deserve these priviledges. There is a fundamental mistake being made though, namely the suggestion that it is a cyclepath and not a footpath. A quick look at a few website (inc DCC) will reveal that the Exe Trail is The "Exe Estuary Cycle Path and Walkway" or Exe Estuary Trail (Cycle/Walkway) according to which authorotative reference point you use. It is clear that it is a trail to be shared and not the exclusive preserve of any group. Those without access to computer to check this out (what are they doing here?) can take the hint from the signs at various points which show pedestrians and cycles side by side. If cycle speeds are not great then I don't think there is too much of a problem, walkers have more time to become aware of cyclist's presence, the chance of collisions will be reduced and any that do occure will be less severe. Why would anyone want to treat the Exe trail, or the shared seafront path, as a place to speed along on a bike anyway? I would not suggest that walkers have no responsibility but I do not share the suggestion walkers must be ultra alert for speeding cyclists asserting their so called rights. For God's sake, what's going on to make simple walking along a path change from a relaxing pastime to a stressful battle of wits and agility? In Bournmouth they have wider paved areas shared by cyclists and pedestrians yet still apparently feel the need to set out some rules. Their signs say that pedestrians have priority and that cyclists must not exceed 10 mph. (They also ban cycles completely in the day in July and August) Unless people like the writer of one rant in last weeks Journal accept that these pathways are shared, and behave accordingly, then we can expect to be treated like children and see more nanny state restrictions being imposed.    Report

27/01/2010, 2:31 PM Ian Woolger Joined on 09/09/2008 Budleigh Salterton Posts 187 Re: Exmouth - Lympstone Cycle Path As the writer of "one rant" in last weeks Journal! I feel that you may have been confused as to my inability to "accept that these pathways are shared"... My "Rant" as you put it, was directed at the ignorant gentleman who chose to "have a go at cyclists" the previous week, for daring to use the cycle path on the seafront and the "exe trail". He saw fit to lambast people wearing lycra and critiscise cyclists for using bells. My response was to his attitude towards cyclists. It had nothing to do with "The sharing of the pathway/cycleway". However, as you have brought the subject up, I will put to one side my gripe with the arrogant attitude of the "anti cyclist Mr Millward" and look deeper into both cycle routes and give you "My opinion", humble that it may be... 1) The seafront cycle route, "is a disaster", from a health and safety point of view. It is on the wrong side of the path, IE close to the kerb, where passengers alight from parking vehicles, thus opening their doors into the path of cyclists.It is also badly routed on the Docks end, where the path is narrow, there is not enough room for the cycle route and footpath. Perhaps here, the cycle path should have gone onto the road and had a cycle lane marked on the carriageway. It is also situated on a very busy seafront, which has historically been very popular with walkers and children. 2) The necessity for a cycle route along the seafront, has been increased due to the selfish attitude and unsafe driving of the car drivers who use the esplanade. It has meant that the council has put in traffic calming and road narrowing measures, which have (IMHO) made cycling on the road more unsafe. Allied to the Police forces inability to clamp down on dangerous driving or speeding along the seafront, we have had created a road which is "unusable" to cyclists. 3) EDDC in its wisdom and following government initiatives, is trying to increase the number of "green" transport initiatives available. One of these is to promote cycling and therefore it leads to the creation of "cycle routes". 4) As for the "Exe Trail" I do not disagree that it "Is a cycle route and walkway combined", I do however repeat my statement that the "cycle charity Sustrans" was involved in its planning and part of the trails function is to provide a safe route to Exeter, avoiding the A376, which is a deathtrap for cyclists. I have personally been a cyclist, a motorcyclist, a walker, a lorry driver and a PSV driver. In my 49 years on the highways and byeways of this fair land, I have witnessed some of the most rude and dangerous behaviour, by people from all walks of life, sometimes when behind the wheel, sometimes on foot, on cycle, or behind the handlebars of a high powered motorcycle. It is sadly the attitude of people such as Mr Milward , to whose comments I was replying in last weeks Journal, that gets me hot under the collar. It takes nothing for me as a law abiding cyclist, to exercise common sense, whether cycling the seafront or the Exe Trail. I "OBEY THE RULES", I.E I ride within the de-marked area for cyclists, as requested by the rules. I do not ride on the footpath, as requested by the rules and I exercise care consideration and courtesy to all I meet. It is a shame that "FOLLOWING THE RULES", by trying to make other members of the public aware of my presence, makes me "rude and abusive" and allows the public to start some "anti cyclist witch-hunt". My advice to anyone critical of cyclists, is to say "get on your bike", ride the cycle paths and areas which we as cyclists are allowed to ride on and experience first hand the abuse you will get from the public. I don't ask that you break the law, just attempt to follow the rules. Perhaps then you would understand why "My Rant" graced the pages of the Journal last week! It is criminal to steal a purse, daring to steal a fortune, a mark of greatness to steal a crown. The blame diminishes as the guilt increases    Report

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